We have discussed this before and with several combat experiences included, the results are in black and white. Now, before all of you fufu types launch a direct assault on me, know this, I have met some very tough ladies. Did they act, perform, and conduct themselves the same as their male infantry counterparts in combat? No. Why? because they were shielded and didn’t actually serve next to infantry men. Now, yes, were there some females “attached” to infantry units? Yup, did they spend the entire time, go out on every patrol, combat patrol, not a convoy to Kandahar, very very very few. It should be none as they operating rules prohibited it during OIF/OEF.
“Overall, the report says, all-male teams and crews outperformed mixed-gender ones on 93 out of 134 tasks evaluated. All-male teams were universally faster “in each tactical movement.”
I’m sorry, ladies and men are different. Before you tell me about your friend who is a female fireman er woman er whatever, let me say this, combat and being a fire man have a lot of differences.
Background:During my five 1,2,3,4,5, combat deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, female Marines were under my command, attached to my unit and in support of. They did great. However, they weren’t direct front combat troops. Meaning, they weren’t next to a young 21 year old male, fighting hand to hand with the Taliban. The closest to that were female Marines called “Lionesses” who were attached to us. They would wear their hair down and be obvious females to the locals so that they would be able to search females who were smuggling weapons etc at very safe check points. Now, it was working great, until a truck load of them was heading back to base and was hit with a 100lb IED. It took months for the Marines who had to go recover body parts on the scene to get over picking up female parts. Their mental status was all jacked up and their combat effectiveness sucked afterwards. Yes, these same Marines had done the same body recovery time and time again, however, when it was females, it jacked them up mentally (the ladies in combat advocates haven’t thought about that yet). Ok, so ya say “they can adapt” and as Marines they would but it would also degrade combat effectiveness and that leads to casualties.
Situation: Your a female Marine, you are experiencing your monthly cycle. Did you bring enough “stuff” to last you 7 months? No way, you don’t have enough room in your pack for all your shit and that “stuff”. Now, if your in a massive base like Kandahar, no problem, hell, they basically have Walmarts there and Khandahar is very far away from full on attacks. But, if your in an obsolete forward operating base (FOB), helos will have to bring you more “stuff” and those additional flights in will put pilots at harm. Are those flights justified? Sorry, we don’t get truck convoys in FOBs, too dangerous from IEDs. Now, your in a FOB, like the last one I was in, the most southern Marine FOB in Afghanistan. The nearest Marine unit was well over 300 mi away.We didn’t get resupply (by air) but maybe once a month and that was usually only ammo and water. What do you do? By the way, that’s the usual condition infantry Marines are in, not Kuwait, not giant bases like Khandahar where there is a chilies and giant PX’s and freaking Starbucks. So before you tell me you were “with the infantry” in the fight,check yourself and remember what base you were on, how many combat patrols you went on, how many times you engaged the enemy before you really want to discuss your “combat” experience with me. A good filter is to tell me the longest you hadn’t had a shower. My longest was 45 days. Not because we didn’t have showers (although we didn’t) it’s because we were always out on patrol and didn’t come back to the FOB very often. Have you smelled a female that hasn’t showered in a week? I have, it isn’t pretty and she was only on the FOB and never left but because we were in austere conditions, she was in the same boat as everyone else.
“All-male 0311 (rifleman) infantry squads had better accuracy compared to gender-integrated squads. There was a notable difference between genders for every individual weapons system (i.e. M4, M27, and M203) within the 0311 squads, except for the probability of hit & near miss with the M4.”
The fact is, this “cohesion” is much more than if the female can hang with the males physically. Amateurs think tactics, professionals think logistics and the military is not a social experiment because in this experiment, people die. I can fight with nothing but water and ammo and sometimes without water for a very long time, period. Infantry Marines can and will do this and it is expected of them. Now, throw in the female monster. Let’s just say she is cool with putting a 21 year olds guts back in him to save his ass, or applying a tourniquet to a triple amputee who just got hit with an IED, under fire and she is cool with being scared shitless because the enemy just breached your parameter and dudes with IEDs strapped to them(one just ran past you) are infiltrating your camp and detonating themselves killing other Marines. Not to also say she is cool with shitting in a bag because you don’t have shitters because you are so remote and she isn’t a shy shitter and can shit with people in the area. Nonetheless, with all of that being cool, she has to operate with little sleep, and meet the same as any male Marine because their life depends on it. Now remember, FOBs don’t have a px (store) so all or any additional female things you may think you need are not an option. (insert anything here that is in your bathroom drawer, shower etc) It doesn’t exist unless you hump it in.
In TBS (The Basic School) that every Marine officer goes through, everyone, pilots, lawyers and infantry types, do many field exercises and yes, everyone gets to carry the 240 heavy ass machine gun, mortar base plates along with their heavy packs. A female Marine (pilot) was in my platoon and was handed the 240 machine gun. It was her time to carry it, everyone got a turn. It……kicked….her ……….ass and we all heard it. I guess she thought one of us infantry types would feel sorry for her and take it for her. Nope. She is a Lt just like I was. Did I like to carry it? No, it sucks. But what is fair is fair. It’s funny how many “equal rights” will scream that they aren’t being treated equal until, they get the 240 handed to them, then we all hear it. For example, look at all of the blow back we have heard about women being included into a draft. Holy Hell, my case in point.
Listen, I’m all about you wanting to serve, if the Marine Corps turns your switch on, come on it, but know what you are getting into. It will suck for any lady who is in the infantry, finds herself in some shithole country and is expected to go toe to toe with any male for seven months under combat stress. I didn’t say it wasn’t impossible, just said it will suck for you because of the austere conditions, the “physical” requirements are only the beginning. I’ve seen it. Not to mention as well, I weighed 240lbs combat loaded. That’s with body armor, ammo etc. You better be a bad ass chick, if you can drag my ass out of the street when I’m wounded in the leg because if you can’t you really have to ask yourself, do I belong here? Now, I know, you will say, how many male Marines can do that? 99.9% can. %99.9999 Infantry Marines can.
All-male squads, teams and crews and gender-integrated squads, teams, and crews had a noticeable difference in their performance of the basic combat tasks of negotiating obstacles and evacuating casualties. For example, when negotiating the wall obstacle, male Marines threw their packs to the top of the wall, whereas female Marines required regular assistance in getting their packs to the top. During casualty evacuation assessments, there were notable differences in execution times between all-male and gender-integrated groups, except in the case where teams conducted a casualty evacuation as a one-Marine fireman’s carry of another (in which case it was most often a male Marine who “evacuated” the casualty)
That is the reality. The only way it would be different is if our armed forces succumb to the demands and lower the physical requirement standards and accept more risk (like running more air resupply’s for “stuff”) thus, more Marines will get shot at more often and will die. I’m not talking about the actual physical requirements it takes to get into the infantry, but those too will have to be lowered if ladies are expected to serve in the infantry. Let alone, I haven’t even touched on female/male relations (don’t you dare tell me its a leadership issue) because if you mix even remotely attractive females with your basic male, shit happens. Regardless how many power point briefs you give, shit happens. That leads to now, we have to bring in yet another helo, for a special fly out because Suzy is pregnant, or Suzy has some sort of yeast infection or bowel back up because shitting in a bag in the open is scary or whatever.
The facts don’t lie. However, if it is changed and women, like the Army Rangers are permitted into the Marine Corps Infantry, the standards will be lowered and the combat effectiveness will be lowered across the board and casualties will climb. Read full story here
Time for a C-Gar